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Noice, post that shit

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I'll upload it when I get home.

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Thanks for the recommendations. After listening to Nitzer Ebb's old stuff all I can say is... how could music as awesome as this spawn something quite as terrible as what goes for industrial these days?

Then again, I guess the same goes for goth.

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I actually never got into Nitzer Ebb.. but if you like it, listen to Skinny Puppy - VIVIsectVI and Rabies may be good starting points.

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By "Modern industrial" do you mean the shit they play at EBM and faux goth clubs? Or how so many indie artist make bland noise album and call that industrial? Yeah, that's not industrial. Also Ebb and Puppy are great bands, but not industrial in the purist's sense. Ebb plays EBM, Puppy plays something along the lines of "elektro industrial" or a more dance-floor friendly version of the genre.

Captain and friends have certainly posted some fine bands to look up. Go and buy these albums also:

Einstürzende Neubauten - Drawings of a Patient OT
Monte Cazazza - The Very Worst of
Throbbing Gristle - Second Annual Report

Back on topic: Mouseblood is certainly right here. Many earlier deathrock artists dabbled with industrial music, check out Rozz's side project "Premature Ejaculation" for one. KFK's Mata also was influenced by Throbbing Gristle. It's also generally known that industrial and goth/ post-punk bands were found of one another:



- Genesis P-Orridge

http://genesisporridgearchive.blogspot. ... bde3b2db36

We also can't forget how Test Dept were Batcave residents back in their best years.

I find this history of Theater to be really interesting as I didn't know they played industrial at all in their infancy. But considering many artists ranging from Lou Reed to C93 to Meat Beat dabbled with experimental or noisy music, I shouldn't have been too surprised.

@ Mouseblood: I'm really digging the industrial tunes. So where can we buy the album? On the Theater of Ice page?

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A bit of both, really, but my main impression would be of the stuff they play at goth clubs. Thankfully a couple of my friends who have spun discs at those clubs have mixed in some of the old stuff as well, which I like.

This thread, along with the input of the Captain and Aladar in other threads, has been a real eye-opener.

EDIT: I was already familiar with Crash Course in Science through the minimal wave compilation, but I wasn't aware of the fact that they were considered industrial. Then again, this should've come as no surprise, since most of the stuff on the comp is just old-school EBM, with the name minimal wave being, as far as I understand, a recently coined term.

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Well, while old-school EBM and (what is now called) minimal wave aren't quite the same thing, there was a lot of crossover between the two during the early days, and CCIS is probably the best example of that.

Basically what it comes down to is:

Dance-synth New wave that is minimal=minimal wave

Dance-synth New wave with industrial noise elements=EBM

Dance-Synth New wave that is minimal and has industrial noise elements= Crash Course in Science

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Huh, okay. You learn new things every day.

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I really should listen to more CCIS, only heard one track a comp and like it, should pick something else up

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I would actually rather recommend D.O.A. as a first TG album. It's more "accessible" while still beign deliciously experimental and raw. I actually found the Second Annual Report probably the weakest of all the studio recordings..

As with Weeping, apparently, GPO claimed that they sang that with Ian every time he was depressed and needed an "escape".. also claimed that they both wanted to quit their bands and work together.. who knows what's the truth tho, GPO is lying psychobitch.



Aww <3

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I was more into DOA than the second annual report too at first, but over time the Second Annual Report grew on me and now it's probably my favorite release by them.

The first Slug Bait blows though.

So does After Cease to Exist, which is usually thrown on the end of the Second annual report in most releases these days. I'm sure it worked fine as a film soundtrack like it originally was, but as a song unto itself it's just awful. But it wasn't originally a part of the album and was never intended to be released as a song, so I don't count it against the Second Annual Report.

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I prefer Second Annual Report over DOA actually. Second Annual Report is such a visceral listening experience. As much as I enjoy D.O.A, some songs (Valley of the Shadow of Death, Dead on Arrival, Hometime) slow down the whole album for me and make it d.u.l.l. in those spots.

I don't know why you'd say Slug Bait blows. Slug Bait is one of my favorite songs of all time by TG. I love cranking that track and lying down on the floor in the dark of the night.

Cease to Exist though isn't all that great of a track in my opinion. Maybe for a movie soundtrack, yes, or some sort of dada/ Aktionist performance art piece, but as a song it just bogs down the album.

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The noise in this track is boring, and the monologue is dumb. Goes on too long, nothing interesting happens.

We ARE talking about Slug Bait ICA, right? The other two slug baits own.

I like Dead on Arrival and Hometime! Dead on Arrival is really fun and energetic and Hometime has an awesome mellow groove!

Totally right about Valley of the Shadow of Death though. Boring, boring, song.

Also Death Threats. But that one's only 41 seconds, so whatever.

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I think we will all agree that DOA is still better first-listening experience than SAR, tho?

DOA for me means Hamburger Lady and Weeping. Those two songs fucking rule. The rest of it is great as well, tho yeah, I agree on Shadow - Sleazy could've done much better.. but then again, it was never supposed to be a song.

I like Hometime, though. Gives you a different look on the group, in the meaning of "oh look, she has motherly feelings too, I guess they really are not those merciless nihilist freaks like media made us believe".

Edit: Also an album I forgot to mention - Hollow Earth - Dog Days of the Holocaust. One of the best industrial ambient stuff I've heard.

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Yeah, DOA is probably the better place to start. SAR is a little...much for the first-time listener.

Hamburger Lady and Weeping ARE super awesome. Can't forget Walls of Sound, Hit by a Rock, and AB/7A though.

GOD THROBBING GRISTLE RULE SO FUCKING HARD.

Also, as far as power electronics/harsh noise goes, other than what Aladar said:

Halflings: Self Esteem
The Sodality: Beyond Unknown Pleasures

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