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True Sounds
of Liberty were interviewed October 25, 1981, the second day of their national
tour, in the alley beside the Mab with help from Marie Estrada and Paul
(thanks!)
The band consists of Jack Greggors (Alex Morgan) doing vocals, Ron Emory
on guitar, Mike Roche on bass, and Todd (Francis Gerald Barnes) on drums.
Frank Agnew, formerly of the Adolescents, joined TSOL on second guitar
in August, giving the band an even more powerful sound. Their mailing
address is 3102 Ladoga Avenue, Long Beach, CA 90608.
TSOL has built up a huge hardcore following within the last year. They're
a very creative band with material ranging from intense political songs
to dramatic horror punk with haunting melodies. One of the most unique things
about TSOL is Jack's stage presence, which is very theatrical, both in his
demonic vocal style and in the way he paces the stage wearing ghoul makeup.
TSOL's first record appeared early in 1981, a total knockout 12" EP
on the Posh Boy label containing five very political songs like "Property
is Theft" and "Abolish Government/Silent Majority". This
was followed in the summer by the "Dance with Me" album on Frontier
records. This time the general theme was horror punk with tunes like "Silent
Scream", Funeral March", "Die For Me", and "Code
Blue", the song with the famous line "I wanna fuck the dead".
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TIM:
How did the difference in themes between your EP and your album
come about?
JACK: We had all the EP songs and the album songs at the
same time, we played the set, but when we did our first thing with Posh Boy,
we knew he was gonna burn us, so we held back the stuff we really liked and
just gave him all our political songs, and got him to make us popular.
MIKE: A lot of the songs had truthful lyrics but the music
was lacking, as compared to the LP.
TIM: Did you have a problem
when you had that EP out and people associated that kind of image with you?
JACK: Really not till we left town. The people in LA had
seen us play our whole set, and they heard the EP songs, but they knew we played
all the other ones too.
MIKE: We still play all the EP songs.
JACK: Yeah we play 'em both so it wasn't that bad.
TIM: How does your political
stuff go down with the crowd in LA?
MIKE:
I think a lot of them like it. There's a lot of hard line views
we have, but if we put out record after record of political stuff, it would
just be boring. So that's why we changed a bit.
TIM: What can we expect from
you in the future? |
MIKE: The unexpected. The music and topics will all change
constantly.
TIM: Where did you get the
inspiration for "Code Blue"?
JACK: I don't know what I was thinking of. My grandma
died the day before I wrote that one.
MARIE: You have a real hardcore
following, but what you guys do is so much out of the norm for "punk".
MIKE: Me, Ron and Todd (used to wear) leather jackets,
torn up jeans, boots, cutaway shirts, and filthy black, green, or yellow hair.
We looked horrible, writing all over our clothes, and Jack's mom used to tell
him not to hang around with us, cuz he'd get in trouble. And then after a while
it just evolved.
JACK: Just
to do something different probably. And it's easier - all the punk rockers
pick out all the hardcore clothes at the thrift shops. All that's left is
gay clothes, that's what you're stuck with, so fuck, might as well just
use 'em all, make a good buy before they catch on.
MIKE: In the beginning, everyone dressed as everyone
else wouldn't. So that's what |
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we kinda do
now. If it's awful and horrible looking and just
makes you sick to your stomach, we'll wear it.
TIM:
Have any of your fans picked up your style?
MIKE: Oh yeah. It's common to wear makeup with bands in
LA now, but the first time Jack did it people were all going "look at that
faggot".
JACK: The
only thing that makes me mad is that a lot of times now people say I'm like
an Ant
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something. They go, "Oh, yeah,
you love Adam Ant". But I was wearing makeup when I was a skinhead
three years ago, just to bum people out.
RON: For shock value.
MARIE:
Why are you guys rebelling? I don't know what your backgrounds are, but it seems
that a lot of punks, up here and in LA, are middle class kids from nice backgrounds.
It's hard for a lot of minority kids, who are really fucking screwed over, to
understand why punks are punks. They feel that you guys have everything that
they want - money, a nice background, a car, whatever.
MIKE: There's
a lot more in it than material things, if it gets down to it. None of us
can really afford cars, except maybe Jack, and he scratches by. Hardly afford
rent, hardly afford clothes. Most
of us were out of our houses when
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There's deeper reasons than money or crap like that.
MARIE: But
they just look at it from the viewpoint of "They have what we want, so
why are they rebelling?"
MIKE: Yeah, if you've been there partially to where
you've had a certain amount of stuff that other people haven't. But there's
another way of looking at it - how come we're not going to the kids that
are really rich and saying, "Gee, we wish we could be there."
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